in Jerusalem? and therefore the rumour became widely believed and was becoming a problem that
It is important to notice that the Fragment states that John wrote to the seven churches of the Apocalypse. There are now pointed out twin pools, of which one is filled by the
Moody Press. before the Parousia, not because he was raptured [4. Scholars have debated the authorship of Johannine literature (the Gospel of John, Epistles of John, and the Book of Revelation) since at least the third century, but especially since the Enlightenment. Bible Only Revelation Commentary by Steven Rudd Dating the Gospel of John to AD 98 Knowing that the Romans used the Island of Patmos as a prison strongly suggests that is why John was there. e.
i. I was in the Spirit on the Lords day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like the sound of a trumpet, Rev. Often asked: When Was Saint Thomas The Apostle Born? AD 70 was earlier than Johns natural
Further evidence for the continued importance
second coming. Irenaeus. Justin Martyr quotes Johns view that Christ would dwell a thousand years in Jerusalem. he also The book itself says it was written by the apostle John. revenge ourselves on things that are inanimate, instead of the men themselves;
Clement of Alexandria. In the Gospel According to Mark he is always mentioned after James and was no doubt the younger brother. Ouch to
F. F. Bruce. He was creating a written record of the things God was about to reveal to him. My position is that Revelation was written in A.D . alive in AD 70 because many others alive in AD 33 also lived past AD 70. explains why John felt the need to discuss this rumour about him when he wrote
in Jerusalem because he translates Hebrew words for the Greeks. It is necessary for us to give an argued account of all these, since the blessed apostle Paul himself, following the order of his predecessor John, but not naming him, writes to seven churches in the following order: first to the Corinthians, second to the Ephesians, third to the Philippians, fourth to the Colossians, fifth to the Galatians, sixth to the Thessalonians, seventh to the Romans. Hist. side. (Josephus Wars 7:1, 2nd September AD 70, Sunday,
the city till the rapture in AD 66 3 months before the First Jewish War started
Its courtyard school on arched pillars and buttresses directly over
Sychar, near the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph; and
I believe that when John saw this vision of Jesus, his mind went back to that mountaintop experience. All Rights Reserved. Chronology of destruction of Jerusalem: AD 62-74, The 7
Christ. 3.3.4), d.
Lord, and what about this man? Jesus said to him, If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? hearer of John and a companion of Polycarp (Papias fragment 3, Eusebius, Church History
"There are in Jerusalem
His great age of eighty-six years implies that he was contemporary with St.
persecution (which was no way near as wide spread as Full-Preterists suggest)
the 2d century comes from archaeological excavations at the site (Duprez 1970). He goes on to say, John, one of the apostles of Christ, who prophesied, by a revelation that was made to him, that those who are in our Christ would dwell a thousand years in Jerusalem . Asia with John, the disciple of the Lord, attest to Johns tradition, for he
Early in chapter 1 of the book we discover the way John wrote the book. killed by Nero before the second coming, but that John himself didnt even make
Encyclopedia of the Bible, Beth-zatha). 7. Readers ask: Why I Love The Apostle Paul: 30 Reasons? First, we will address the question, Who wrote the book of Revelation? The internal evidence of the book of Revelation is very important since the Word of God is without error and is the only source of truth. two large pools at the north side of the temple, that is one upon the right
John, and Revelation. most nobly suffering martyrdom, departed this life, having always taught the
Quick Answer: Which City Was Apostle Paul Stoned And Left For Dead? He also wrote Old Testament commentaries. How many epistle did John write? Finally, dating Revelation during Neros reign does not allow time for Johns ministry in Asia Minor to reach the point at which the authorities would have felt the need to exile him.[12]. On this island in the southern part of the Aegean Sea, John had a vision of Jesus Christ and wrote the prophetic book of Revelation. The elephant in the room, is that no one would equate
the pool of Bethesda. 3.3.4). Witnesses: Jesus ben Ananus: AD 62-70, Book
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Votive offerings characteristic of grateful devotees of Serapis or of Asclepius
Achtemeir et al. Jerusalem Christians an irrelevant act of futility! Then, again, the Church in Ephesus, founded by Paul, and having John remaining among them permanently until the times of Trajan, is a true witness of the tradition of the apostles.[10]. 2. passages but did not expect to be alive, even in old age, for the second
The first commentary on the book of Revelation to be preserved, written by Victorinus, regards John the Apostle as the author. Irenaeus. As you can see, these arguments based upon tenses used
He saw him in his natural form as a human; he also saw him transfigured and in all his glory. through two witnesses, and these should be trustworthy, for they represented
No warnings to
should get upon that holy house, and fight us thence, yet ought we not to
In Eusebius only one of the twin pools is involved in the
Other than the statement that after he was 12 years old (Luke 2:42) Jesus advanced in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and men (Luke 2:52), the New Testament has no other details regarding the gap. Early-date advocates hold that Revelation was written by John prior to the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70. Jeremiah 9:23-24. 3. It is important to recall that he was the disciple whom Jesus loved (John 13:23; 20:2; 21:7, 20). . When was the book of Revelation written by the apostle John? hand and one upon the left where were made by Solomon; and further in the city
before AD 70 with a supernatural life expectancy that enabled him to see the
Testament Bible book and chapter dating, Jewish
& the extinction of Judaism, Intro 5: The role of
All of Jesus' apostles could not read or write even their native Aramic, so the idea that any of them wrote in G. [4]. the pool. During his life, John wrote the book of John and the 1st, 2nd and 3rd book of John and the . In fact, Revelation was written in AD 66 and the rest of
the seven messengers of the 7 churches who brought Revelation from Asia to
(239) Now, some of
There is nothing unique or unusual about John being
John suffered martyrdom before the Parousia and did not live and remain until
eccl. book of Revelation about it and the topic would be front and center on his mind
9:1335. AD 70 but preserved by the Romans and continued to be used for centuries
Bzatha (Bethsaida). Johns letter after AD 98. : My settled position now
InterVarsity Press. Prophecy was viewed by the Romans as belonging to the same category, whether Pagan, Jewish, or Christian. when Titus had given orders to the commanders that the
afterwards. [and demolish it]; because the Jews would never leave off rebelling while that
The author was probably a Christian from Ephesus known as "John the Elder." . FAQ: How Did The Apostle Peter Appoint His Succesor? I, p 149. I often wonder with many of the things he saw, how much his mind must have been blown. Jerusalem in AD 66, it makes Johns entire effort of writing Revelation to the
5. Many other early fathers can be cited in similar fashion, such as Clement of Alexandria and Origen. There are now pointed out twin pools, of which one is filled by the
Peter understood that John was the only man on earth
from earth on. quickly statements used by Johns Gospel and three letters, if the rapture was
Early tradition says that John was banished to Patmos by the Roman authorities. Hebrew Bethesda, having five porticoes." 1985. p. 755. of Full-Preterism because it proves: a. (AD 62) and before the Parousia (AD 66). (The final decade before the end,
I, p. 416. [5] The Fragment is important since it recognizes most of the books of the New Testament and mentions their authors. Prologue. Against Heresies. book of Revelation about it and the topic would be front and center on his mind
Against Heresies. d. And according to Full-Preterist theology, there is no
Eusebius Chronicle, who quotes Irenaeus), c. Five books of Papias are in circulation,
And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man, dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. I guess the many symbols and images can be overwhelming and somewhat scary. By Steve Rudd February 2018: Contact the author for
quickly statements used by Johns Gospel and three letters, if the rapture was
Rev. conference with his generals who all decide NOT to destroy the temple but to
contradict this fiction. John wrote the book of Revelation during his exile. comments, input or corrections. Jesus brothers and sisters The Gospel of Mark (6:3) and the Gospel of Matthew (13:5556) mention James, Joseph/Joses, Judas/Jude and Simon as brothers of Jesus, the son of Mary. Eusebius says the Gospel of John was written at Ephesus
mentions these as the only works written by him, saying something like this: Papias, a man of the early period, who was a
That the coming of the Lord with clouds had two
Titus proposed to these that they should give
FAQ: How Much Of The New Testament Did The Apostle Paul Write? Revelation was written in the last decade of the first century (ca. Ouch to
Edward E. Stevens, p57, 2014 AD). The MacArthur Bible Handbook. Yet he succeeded because he was guided by The Holy Spirit, who I guess you could say is technically the one who wrote Revelation. Bourd. wrote the book of Revelation. Perhaps church tradition dated John's writings (particularly the Revelation) to be A.D. 90-100 in order to disprove the preterists' view. 4.20.11. Once it had five
Thus the local cult assumed
had the seven messengers had a better chance of living through Neros
of every Christian on earth in AD 66 SCREAM
The external can never override the internal truth. until the 6th century AD and was never destroyed. f. The book of Revelation probably succeeded in
summer | 4.2K views, 92 likes, 102 loves, 53 comments, 67 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from The Ramp: His presence is here, worship with us at Summer. Johns Natural life was 100 years of age in 100 AD. Gorpiaeus/Elul 8). This book will teach you how to put the pieces together so you can live a victorious Christian life and finally become the man or woman of God that you truly desire to be. This is a story that truly ends well for those in Christ. Mormon, especially when the actual literary sources we do posses vociferously
of the truth, is within. (Iren., Adv. unlike all other men, would live till the second coming as an eternal. While notable scholars can be cited in support of divergent views, the proof dissipates upon examination. The rumour was special to John because many of
visit it today at Nablus, Israel: "So He came to a city of Samaria called
only 2 years away. . THE AUTHOR OF THE REVELATION. afterwards. Why flee in AD 62 if you can safely stay in
It seems clear that the early church attributed the book to John the Apostle. The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. The silence of the literary sources that
Roman dress when Roman cults appeared in the new city of Aelia Capitolina. No! How Daniels Prophecy of 70 Weeks Connects to the End Times. As part of his persecution, he was exiled to the island of Patmos. is that John was no longer around after AD 70 because he was killed by the Jews
The Pursuit of Victory: How To Conquer Your Greatest Challenges and Win In Your Christian Life. The author was probably a Christian from Ephesus known as John the Elder. According to the Book, this John was on the island of Patmos, not far from the coast of Asia Minor, because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus (Rev. the many magnificent building projects of Herod the Great. . He states that he is there for the Gospel. You have nothing to fear. Internal Evidence #2: John
in the Onomasticon. BC. The place where the apostle John wrote the book of Revelation is actually stated within the book itself. preserving a smaller number of Jerusalem Christians till the second coming than
Sheffield: Journal for the Study of the Old . There persons
What an incredible challenge. disciples expected John to supernaturally outlive EVERYONE alive in AD 33 to
Answer (1 of 10): The short answer is we don't know. 3. He is sometimes referred to as John of Patmos because he was on the Isle of Patmos when he wrote the book of Revelation. Quick Answer: Who Was A Close Associate Of The Apostle Peter? It will be worth it all in the end. In the belief that this person must have been the apostle John, Christians began to. blood which in itself is seen as a sign of old. 1, p. 479, 484, 486, 493, 557, 564. John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace, from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne . We will start with Revelation 1:4. John is the author of five books in the New Testament: - The Gospel of John (this is where he identifies himself as the disciple whom Jesus loved)- 1 John- 2 John- 3 John- Revelation. 1:1) is "The Revelation" - not "Revelations." Emil Kadhum What language would you use to describe that? [11] He clearly refers to two separate individuals in the phrase. Revelation Commentary by Steven Rudd, QUICK LINKS: Bible Only
most of the Christians alive in AD 30 would also live as long or longer than
Me! Therefore this saying went out among the brethren
There are also those who heard from him (Polycarp) that John, the
Jewish Revolt against Rome. be killed by Nero! Calvin didn't write commentaries on 2 John, 3 John, or Revelation. A.D. 94-96), near the end of Emperor Domitians reign (A.D. 81-96). 3 john. still in use in AD 325, but as being architecturally identically as well. (Red like
which are entitled Expositions of the Sayings of the Lord. Irenaeus also
He died as an old man sometime after AD 98, the only apostle to die peacefully. at the second coming 4th June AD 66, not
He refers to this in the first chapter of Revelation: I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus (Revelation 1:9). Did Jesus' Second Coming occur in 70 A.D.. temple, but should leave as many of the towers standing
g.
3 john. His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. 4. movie Left Behind, except no airplanes crashed when the Christian pilots were
& the extinction of Judaism, The role of
When he comes that will be a glorious day. Healing the royal officials son in Capernaum in John 4:46-54. Revelation written in AD 66 2. or be destroyed in AD 70. He didn't write it It was written after his death. Patmos Harpers Bible Dictionary. he also wrote the Gospel of John and the Book of Revelation blood which in itself is seen as a sign of old. But it should be noted that Eusebius uses the phrase age of Nero and Domitian in his book called The Church History book III, chapter XXXII. 7. visit it today at Nablus, Israel: "So He came to a city of Samaria called
Mariamne, , 2nd September AD 70, Sunday,
in AD 64 AD, and only a tiny population remain on the earth even fewer in
be looked upon not as a holy house, but as a citadel; and that the impiety of
that is only 2-4 year away. major event as the invisible rapture of every Christian on earth in AD 66 SCREAM
Do you want to go deeper in your walk with the Lord but cant seem to overcome the stuff that keeps getting in the way? inscription point to Herodian times, making it one of
Pool in Jerusalem which is
He is also given credit for writing the fourth biblical narrative of the Gospel and possibly the Revelation to John; however, there has been considerable discussion of the actual identity of the writers of these works. St John the Divine was exiled to the island of Patmos when he outlive his own natural time of death. Of course, when John is almost 100 years old and wrote
Interesting enough, even though John was an eyewitness to this event he chose not to write about it in his own gospel. 20:36). Continue Learning about Religious Studies. (see section
Think of his challenges; the physical toll on the human body. That is the operational principle by which we discover truths about the book of Revelation. Why was John the Baptist persecuted in Revelation? "When
had they NOT gone to Jerusalem! outlive his own natural time of death. Revelation 1:5 gives us a hint when the author says, To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood . miraculously red, as they say, bearing the traces of the sacrificial victims
baptizing in Aenon near Salim, because there WAS much water there" (John 3:23), b. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! Ante-Nicene Fathers. 1, p. 491. The Second coming of Christ was still expected after AD 70. d.
62. a. Full-Preterists say all Christians vanished
7. 3. The Muratorian Fragment reveals that most of the New Testament books were already recognized and accepted in the early part of the second century (A.D. 100-150). John was caught up in the Spirit and he was instructed to write all the things he saw. Mormon, especially when the actual literary sources we do posses vociferously
The author and date of the book of Revelation is determined by internal and external information. Full Preterism Falsified: No bible
that John would never die began to be widely believed in AD 98 AND FOR GOOD
And according to Full-Preterist theology, there is no
Such explanations are not common
He gives us insight into the events that will take place leading up to the very moment when Jesus again returns as he promised he would do. to Julian calendar date converter, Josephus
He is also believed to be the only disciple who died of old age (the others were allegedly martyred). writes word for word as follows: And all the presbyters who had associated in
Paul, James, Peter, and Jude introduced themselves to their readers as the author of their letters or books at the beginning also. If John was born early in the first century he would have been somewhere between 80-90 when he wrote the book. 1, p.240. John wrote 3 epistles (letters) 1 john. (John 18:1). will die when he is old, which means Peter did not expect the coming
John is the author of five books in the New Testament: - The Gospel of John (this is where he identifies himself as the disciple whom Jesus loved) - 1 John - 2 John - 3 John - Revelation supposedly wrote the book before AD 70: No mention of future destruction
Revelation to John appears to be a collection of separate units composed by unknown authors who lived during the last quarter of the 1st century, though it purports to have been written by an individual named Johnwho calls himself "the servant" of Jesusat Patmos, in the Aegean Sea. Peter understood that John was the only man on earth
He is the author ofThe Pursuit of Purpose which will help you understand how God leads you into his will. Moody Press. "There are in Jerusalem
Was the water gone after 70 AD? The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place. Look, I am coming soon! Did any apostles die of old age? Is Bethany today, no longer NEAR Jerusalem! BTW: The actual title of the book (as stated in Rev. the Parousia. . brought unbound by the priests into the bath, whence it received its name.) At that time the Alexandrian School of Theology, including Dionysius, opposed the doctrine of the millennial kingdom which is plainly taught in chapter 20 with its reference to the thousand years. The arguments for rejecting the apostolic authorship stem largely from the theological climate of the third century. When the fourth bowl is poured out, the sun causes a major heatwave to scorch the planet with fire. Evangelist, was still alive and administered the churches there, having
Salem Media Group. 21:20-23 proves the gospel of John was written long after AD 70, 1. The Book of Revelation was written sometime around 96 CE in Asia Minor. There is both internal and external evidence that reveals that the apostle John wrote the book of Revelation while he was imprisoned on the Island of Patmos. 1:9-10 (NASB). him their advice what should be done about the holy house. For when, on the tyrants death, he returned to Ephesus from the Isle of Patmos . John. . John was 99 years old. The John MacArthur Bible Handbook states the following about the date of Revelation. 1995. vol. these thought it would be the best way to act according to the rules of war
in AD 100: 1. distinct applications: AD 70 and the Second coming after that when John was
were unearthed in the debris in the double pool. of the site is the erection of a Christian church in the 5th century just E of
66] It is enough to confirm the report that he still survived at this time
7. First, lets examine what the book of Revelation says about its author. most of the Christians alive in AD 30 would also live as long or longer than
SCREAM FICTION as loudly as the lack of archeological evidences for the Book of
Aelia replaced Jerusalem under the emperor Hadrian in 135 C.E. that that disciple would not die, John 21:20-23 is utterly devastating to Full-Preterists
him. Imagine if you lived in the 1930s and you had to describe at that time the internet, smartphones or even drones. AD 70, Sunday, 9 Lous/Av), should leave as many of the towers standing
. Longer answer is, John was an illiterate fisherman from Galilee, he could not even read or write Aramaic much less polished Greek. 3.24.7). That Peter was aware of the Lord come quickly
Flee Jerusalem or be destroyed in AD 70 3. In like manner, Tertullian cites the author as the Apostle John and quotes from almost every chapter of the book. them. The book itself says it was written by the apostle John. miracle. Those seven signs are when He turned water into wine, the healing of the royal officials son, the lame man enabled to walk, feeding of the 5,000, walking on the sea, healing the blind man and raising Lazarus from the dead. Scrolls & Song of Sabbath Sacrifice, Intro 4: Moses Sunset Clause
tarried [on earth] a very long time, and, when a very old man, gloriously and
they got upon it, and fought any more, he might burn it; because it must then
(241) But Titus said, that although the Jews
Justin Martyr. of Daniel: 1260 days. This would have been shortly after the apostle John died. 1. Five books of Papias are in circulation,
The Apostle John is the author of the Book of Revelation. Reference to the apostles authorship is found as early as Justin Martyr, in his Dialogue with Trypho. major event as the . God has nothing but the best planned for those who love him. John then refers to himself as I once again in verse 10. This is faulty reasoning based upon tense because even
At the age of about 30, he d returned to the Middle East and the life that is familiar to us from the New Testament. Flee Jerusalem
not Jerusalem, Dating
Irenaeus quotes every chapter of the book of the Revelation. E. Eusebius: External Literary Source #1: Eusebius says the Gospel of John was written at Ephesus
living past AD 70 as uniquely remarkable for John alone, since children and
Revelation 1:9, "John, your brother and companion" 1966. p. 12. .[3]. Jerusalem. John is traditionally regarded as the author of five books of the Bible: the Gospel of John, the epistles 1 John, 2 John, and 3 John, and the Book of Revelation, although some Bible scholars dispute which of these (if any) he actually wrote. Josephus records how Titus was careful to preserve the
was likely about 66 years old. REASON, or so they thought, when he wrote the Gospel of John. John 21:20-23 proves the gospel of John was written long after AD 70
.[8]. through the ruins, and quench the fire. (Josephus Wars 6.238-243, 5th August
Finally, he ends with the beauty of heaven and the wonderful things God has in store for those who love him. In light of this truth, the question that remains, that only you can answer, is how will you live your life? John called himself the beloved probably because he understood Gods love more than anyone else, also having witnessed the crucifixion. Jesus is coming soon. "Now
The author of Revelation is the apostle John, or as he called himself the disciple whom Jesus loved. The Book of Revelation was written sometime around 96 CE in Asia Minor. the pool of Bethesda. Lets look at this encounter: I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. he discloses this same fact in these words: Moreover, the Church at Ephesus,
raptured. centre for healing from AD 135 down to at least the 6th century AD: a. This provides conclusive evidence that the DomitianEusebius refers to is the Domitian who reigned from A.D. 81 to A.D. 96. 1:4). Eusebius agrees with Clement of Alexandria and adds that John returned from the Island of Patmos after Domitian died. John F. Walvoord. hearer of John and a companion of Polycarp, Full-Preterists cannot adequately harmonize their . (240) Others of them were of opinion, that in case the Jews would leave it, and
AD 70 but preserved by the Romans and continued to be used for centuries
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Thomas Nelson Publishers. One of the greatest of these happened when they were with Jesus on the mountain and saw his transfiguration. hand and one upon the left where were made by Solomon; and further in the city
miracle. The author of the Book of Revelation identifies himself as John , and the book has been traditionally credited to John the Apostle. According to this text, which Notovitch had translated into French, Jesus had spent his missing years the years between his childhood and the beginning of his ministry studying Buddhism in India. rain water (winter rains) and the other it appears that the water becomes
Polycarp who was born in AD 81 and died in AD 167, had personally met
Writing in the second century, Irenaeus declared that Revelation had been written toward the end of Domitians reign. Mormon, especially when the actual literary sources we do posses vociferously
as were of the greatest eminency; that is, Phasaelus, and Hippicus, and
3.1.1), 5. Tertullian also has mentioned Domitian in the following words: Domitian also, who possessed a share of Neros cruelty, attempted once to do the same thing that the latter did. Afterwards,
only 2 years away. the 2d century comes from archaeological excavations at the site (Duprez 1970). The Canon of Scripture. disciple of the Lord, going to bathe at Ephesus, and perceiving Cerinthus
John, the beloved apostle who wrote the Gospel of John, I-III Onomasticon, 325 AD). His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance. The book itself says it was written by the apostle John. I hold that Revelation was produced prior to the death of Nero in June, A.D. 68, and even before the formal engagement of the Jewish War by Vespasian in Spring, A.D. 67. It is important to note that Augustine lived hundreds of years after these conclusions had already been reached. PPT 1, 20). mentions these as the only works written by him, saying something like this: , Papias, a man of the early period, who was a
The Book of Revelation was written around 68-69 AD by the Apostle John on the Island of Patmos after the Emperor Nero exiled him for preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. things which he had learned from the apostles, and which the Church has handed
in Jerusalem because he translates Hebrew words for the Greeks. Caesar gave orders that they should now demolish the entire city and
(Eusebius,
John founded and built churches all through Asia until he was old, and died the sixty-eighth year after our Lord's passion, peacefully in Ephesus. John Walvoord makes this statement about the authorship of Revelation. Hendrickson. flee Jerusalem when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies Lk 21:20. a. Onomasticon, 325 AD). You can read about it in Matthew 17, Mark 9, and Luke 9. who have been sick for many years are cured; the pools contain water which is