When the JetBlue flight attendant in LAX got caught with cocaine shortly after F/As were included in the program, we all saw the writing on the wall. 53 0 obj <> endobj If a crewmember does not present an active KCM barcode card and is referred for screening, they must follow the TSOs instructions and complete the screening process at the passenger screening checkpoint. TSA has implemented a standardized response from the agency for KCM suspensions and removals rather than relying on agency field operations to implement such measures. Since you dont deal with people Im going to ignore the commentary on your lack of understanding why its necessary to go through an expedited process as a flight attendant. There should be employee TSA entrance, no sense of having crews who show up last minute, which is understandable not having an employee entrance. Cleaners/agents/food vendors/cleaning crews/maintenance. Common sense solutions to common sense problems. The attention is directed at the wrong people. Life rafts are located on Deck 7 . 0000006114 00000 n Crewmembers may request a new or replacement KCM barcode card from their airline management. Sponsored by ALPA and Airlines for America. I don't really care if literally the whole crew, all my fellow passengers, and TSA are all smuggling drugs on every flight so long as I get where I'm headed. I'm also a flight attendant and I don't know about that since it looks like you're happy with arriving an extra couple hours even before your report time at the gate. Second, customers are always disappointed when a crew member steps to the front of a line. all while putting up with ATTITUDES & MINDSETS from people like you! I don't know if a single checkpoint which excorts you directly to screening. Youre a bunch of loser clowns. The majority of flight attendants and pilots follow the rules. I'll actually enjoy watching you go through security and whining about it. Fine tuning of the program are very much in need but not just to our end, theirs (Government Screeners) too. Imagine having to go through security and adding extra unpaid time to your job every time you went to work. If you arrive at the busiest times, youll see dozens of airport staff coming thru the PreCheck positions. Once these tasks are successfully completed, the crewmember will be allowed to proceed into the sterile area. Also, the US is rolling out more and more high tech scanners which are much faster. Pilots have much more to lose. I was then forced to go through the x-ray scanner, and I was still flagged as they said the zipper on my uniform was a problem and then I had to stand there and be patted down in front of everyone, it was infuriating. Dangerous goods permitted in carry-on baggage are also permitted "on one's person", except where otherwise specified. While I havent seen the document myself, this has allegedly been outlined in a Known Crewmember update, following a meeting with TSA Administrator David Pekoske. Like other airline workers dont use a SIDA badge and go through another entrance. Prohibited items: Firearms & Ammunition, including realistic replicas. The exception is that employees will sometimes be randomly selected to be screened, and the number of random screenings has reportedly increased significantly in recent months (and will continue to increase). "First responders" L.O.L. An 18% service charge is automatically applied to all beverage purchases, bar retail items, specialty restaurant cover charges, all for-purchase a la carte menu items, and all Spa & Salon services. So to clarify, a flight attendant like a pilot is required to do a strenuous background check. A flight attendant, like a pilot has the ability to go through KCM by scanning their KCM badge, flashing their badge as you say to verify the screen matches the badge in front of them, and showing an additional verification of ID, passport or FAA airman card. 0000003889 00000 n Crewmembers can utilize the KCM access points for both business and personal use. Things do NOT get fixed until the agency in question is FORCED into a state of change. I am sorry to say but sometimes FA and Pilot take advantage of the KCM and sorry to say these but sometimes you also show up late to flights when getting coffee. CBP is a little different here but TSA is definitely a lot of entry level type people just looking at a x ray machine doing what they were trained, like robots. How is that a thing??? A: You should remain calm and ask to speak to a Lead or Supervisory Transportation Security Officer (LTSO or STSO) to the discrepancy. So tell me. H\Pn >t7i4)v} 'CZ rf ,s6^`D\5u`NzVq"p?E __C] But now theyre gonna stop flight attendants from trafficking in fentanyl. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits! I'll go to the end of the line and the flight will leave when I get to the aircraft and complete my duties. NOTE: If the selected crewmember exits the sterile area and attempts to reenter through a KCM access point during this time period, they will continue to be identified for USP. The primary mission of TSA is to reduce security vulnerabilities and to strengthen resilience against terrorist attacks in the Nation's transportation systems, including aviation, mass transit, rail, highway, and pipeline, to ensure freedom of movement for people and commerce. Youre right though, losing KCM is the least of their problems; however, Full disclosure- Im a flight attendant, and its frustrating to lose this privilege because of crew members who dont follow the rules. If the crewmember/s indicates possession of the items above or personal international travel, the TSO will notify a Supervisory-TSO (STSO). The smuggling will just end up moving to the SIDA badge holders. Now there's a delayairline management won't like that idea. You walk on your own to TSA Pre and wait in line with everyone else. If the program went back to its origins, it would work fine, but the authorities are far too politically correct to exclude just one problem group, so now we all get to suffer for their sins. That would solve the vast majority of the issues. US law is pretty clear that there is a legal basis for referring a suspected violator of US law to the appropriate law enforcement agency once there is a reasonable suspicious that arises out of a legitimate and legal search - which the TSA security process is. If I'm not trusted, then fine. The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has provided new guidance to the Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) staffing the Known Crewmember (KCM )Access Points. Eh? Report: TSA Ending Known Crewmember Program In 2023, My take on TSA Known Crewmember Program changes, How To Check TSA PreCheck Hours & Availability, Yuck: TSA Finds Gun Hidden In Raw Chicken, Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners, On the one hand, I do think its time that some changes are made to the Known Crewmember Program, purely based on the number of people who have abused it, On the other hand, fully screening pilots and flight attendants will take up more TSA resources and could lead to longer lines at security; furthermore, the TSA isnt actually very good at finding hidden objects, At least in the case of pilots, I think screening is kind of unnecessary, since theyre flying the plane, and if they wanted to do something, Ultimately I also get the argument that the TSA isnt there to stop drugs, but rather to stop weapons; that being said, if someone is smuggling kilos of cocaine and fentanyl, getting that off the streets (or out of the skies) doesnt seem like a bad thing. Cabin Readiness Safety & Compliance Reminder! I'm sorry but I simply do not want to allow anyone to be able to conduct any illegal activity via aviation; the drug crisis in the US is horrific and anyone that wants to protect their personal privileges to allow someone else to profit and kill others should simply not have those privileges. Every actual crew member reading this comment section knows you made that up. Learn to comprehend what I'm saying. You also clearly dont know what youre talking about if youre suggesting to not screen pilots. Waiters, food services and others, including TSA workers who make minimum wage and have a thankless job, not so much. Stay in your uniform you wont have that problem. The blame is on BOTH PARTS. VxH UKrOrBWuNw9Wv`i|:>Dj^~zfJ)?9VEQ Didn't we all crewmembers provided the Agency with Fingerprints, ( They want new one's by next year 2023 ). What else are they catching? . It's about protecting those who aren't from the delays and damage caused by the searches. If the TSA's job isn't to catch drugs, then I'm not exactly sure what this will accomplish. The first step should be eliminating flight attendants from any expedited screening program. box cutters. CrewPASS has been used successfully at three East Coast airportsBaltimore/Washington International (BWI), Pittsburgh International (PIT) and Columbia (S.C.) Metropolitan (CAE)for almost three years. All rights reserved. I'm tired of regularly going to KCM and being told that I got random. Stay connected with the latest travel, aviation, and credit card news. Right, but the OP say's he has " 100% positive reputation and revered status with Spacer's Choice" and yet " still can't buy restricted items such as mag-picks from Spacer's Choice vending machines". Crewmembers must be fully certified by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)as applicable; currently employed by the aircraft operator holding an approved TSA security program; have successfully completed the Criminal History Records Check (CHRC) process; be authorized to perform crewmember duties on full all-cargo flights, scheduled passenger or public/private charter passenger flights operated under an approved security program; and have completed the aircraft operators crewmember security training as applicable. Just give us our own lane already. The screenshot is going around. The SF system randomly selects individuals to undergo selectee screening and will identify the printed boarding pass or seat request card with a SSSS. The MANY should not be punished, just because of the FEW. Flight crews already have to arrive hours before their flight and are not even getting paid. Requiring pilots to meet the same filter as a passenger or FA is sillylook what happened at German Wings A320. Will the Expedited Crew Access program require all pilots and flight attendants to be screened, or? Real professional comment on your part. I will however, proceed to explain that there is a necessity to have minimum crew on board to board passengers which I do realize you do not deal with. Also when is the last time you saw a TSA agent screened when going through a checkpoint . Get your facts straight! TSOs are responsible for screening passengers and their carry- A: No. Get ready for crew members to be cutting in front of you everywhere ! Q. If you look at the Number of incidents that are occurring, the majority, are all flight attendants. When flights get delayed or passengers miss their flights because the TSA already cant keep up with their normal shit. On January 26, 2021, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), issued an order, requiring operators to collect, store and verify documentation on the current COVID-19 status of inbound international air passengers traveling to the United States. Historical flightdeck positions include: KCM is a risk-based security program and the use of the KCM program is a privilege and not a right. We will just have more delayed flights. On the other, my spouse is a F/A for Southwest. There are 24,000 flight attendants just at my airline. I wish I could taste the tears of your unfathomable sadness. Flight attendants (mostly female) live out of their suitcases for several days at a time and wouldn't be feasible to check their bags just for health and beauty products (make-up, shampoo, etc), not counting the amount of food that FA's are allowed to pack in their travel cooler (again, several days of food are packed in those coolers) FA's are background checked and it's My concern for flight attendants would be the TSA liquid limits. (Id really be interested to know what the stats are on that??) Any self respecting smuggler can take that on one flight, depending on what drug it is. A:A crewmember will be issued a KCM barcode card from their participating airline management staff. Celebrating 21 Years of AFA E-Lines and Debrief, Delta pilots approve new contract with 34% raises, Delta Pilots Approve Contract Raising Pay by 34%. I'll bet you even flash your "first responder" wings at cops on traffic stops too. Are you mad that they didn't let them go? Crew Member responsibilities include assisting customers as needed, answering questions, and completing daily tasks. I'm laughing my ass off at all of these angry flight attendants and pilots saying TSA shouldn't worry about drugs lol. You, Mr "peepee" sound as though you already have a preconceived notion about flight attendants and are lumping us all together. But I guess let's just ignore those statistics and realities because you're offended by it. Encourage your airline to be more stringent in hiring, join the hiring team. The KCM program was initially developed by ALPA, FOR PILOTS. I've got nothing to hide. A: The Known Crewmember Program KCM is a risk-based system that enables TSA security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of authorized crewmembers. Wasting TSA time and resources that should be used with someone else. They are dropped off @ the secure side of the terminal. Ive also witnessed on more than one occasion a pilot attempt to bring a family member through KCM and then throw a hissy fit when theyre turned away. I dont think there was EVER a 3-4 HOUR security line.except maybe right after 9/11 or perhaps a few times in AMS over the summer. Ill start with the Germanwing pilot. I am a passenger and one day I saw how nasty attitude you get to tsa for random checks. And, while doom and gloom regarding the future might be reality, there is a good chance that it will be nowhere near as bad as some try to paint it. 0000057216 00000 n But this could possibly delay flights guess we'll see. Uh huh. Maybe a probationary period before they are eligible, idk. At this point just shut it down and make a dedicated TSA precheck line for crew members only to help keep regular lines clear. Smuggling drugs or trying to get a weapon through security should be punishable to the people doing it. ]m+o^tw?Mxw7{[7Clikcno9b. The comments on this page have not been provided, reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any advertiser, and it is not an advertiser's responsibility to ensure posts and/or questions are answered. Q:Difficulties with KCM Account Activation or Barcode Card Registration? Report: TSA Ending Known Crewmember Program In 2023 Ben Schlappig Published: November 30, 2022 Updated: December 4, 2022 201 While exact details remain to be seen, it would appear that airline pilots and flight attendants may have to consistently start going through airport security as of next year In this post: And nothing to do with YOU! Airline pilot here. And nothing to do with YOU! Effective January 13, 2015, the Transportation Security Administration's (TSA) Known Crewmember (KCM) requirements changed to provide crewmembers access to KCM out of uniform. Again, NOT for drug enforcement. You seem to be missing the point and just jumping on the offense instead.